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  • Maybe, this is foolish from my side for asking about this a few times. But, can me compare strenght of Orochimaru, Jiraiya and Itachi with each other, but more detailed? There is contradictions about this.

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    • I understand your issue with this. You're probably thinking, if Orochimaru is so much weaker than Itachi, why does he say he'd lose or die trying to kill Jiraiya?

      It all goes back to the story. Both Itachi and Orochimaru state that Orochimaru is inferior to Itachi, but at the same time, Itachi admits the best he could do was tie Jiraiya, killing them both. We have no reason to believe Itachi was overestimating Jiraiya, likewise, even Pain recognized that Jiraiya would have beaten him had he known his secret. Which, according to Tobi, Pain is stronger than Itachi.

      First, you need to understand that power isn't everything. Shinobi have weaknesses regardless of how overall powerful they are. For example, Orochimaru is, in part, incredibly strong because he has tirelessly worked to making himself nearly impossible to kill. In addition, his experimentations on himself have allowed him to have a nearly endless span of eternal youth and large chakra reserves that grow even more powerful over time.

      However, despite all of that. Orochimaru is still weak to genjutsu, as well as extremely powerful ninjutsu that all but negate the effectiveness of his own ninjutsu. Itachi is capable of both of these things, he can easily trap Orochimaru in genjutsu and kill him with something like Amaterasu. That explains why Orochimaru covets the Sharingan and Rinnegan so much, not only because they allow for easier mastery and access to more powerful ninjutsu, but because they could help him overcome his natural weaknesses, which also explains why he told Kabuto that he'd be unstoppable after getting Sasuke's body.

      As individuals, Jiraiya, Orochimaru, and Itachi are all nearly balanced in strength. In the stats, Jiraiya and Itachi's totals are exactly equal, and Orochimaru's is only 0.5 points behind them.

      Something to also consider is that while Orochimaru's immortality jutsu allows him to constantly remain young and strong, his overall strength is limited by the strength of the body he is hosting.

      In other words, Orochimaru can't fight like he could. Things like Sage Mode and probably more physically demanding jutsu are not possible for him to do. So that explains why he falls behind Jriaiya, who, even though was getting older, had access to things like Sage Mode.

      In addition, whereas Orochimaru seems to specialize in powerful and evasive techniques. Jiraiya seems to have a jutsu for almost any situation. He even had a method to counter-act Amaterasu is need-be.

      So, objectively, I feel overall, Jiraiya is stronger because of this, and, as a result, does better in combat against someone like Itachi. However, Jiraiya doesn't necessarily have the skill-set to take down someone like Orochimaru. You see, Jiraiya and Itachi's arsenals are nearly the opposite, Jiraiya relies on an array of flexible, versatile jutsu, while Itachi has an arsenal of a handful of extremely powerful moves that he's mastered to perfection. As well, Itachi specializes in genjutsu, while Jiraiya stated he is horrible at it. So it would explain why Itachi does so well against Orochimaru, whose weak against genjutsu in the first place.

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    • Sorry, maybe, I'm annoying. As you said, according to Nagato, Jiraiya is stronger than him, but he lose battle because he didn't know the secret about Pain. Since he is stronger than Pain, he is also stronger than most alive shinobies in the series (except for dead ones). Technically, only Naruto (after learning Sage Mode) and Sasuke (after becoming powerfull in the middle of Part II, along with Naruto) can defeat him. You stated that Orochimaru is weak to Itachi's genjutsu. 1. But, is there someone that Jiraiya is weak to whom, and why? 2. How would Jiraiya fight with Tsukuyomi, Amaterasu and Susanoo

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    • To be honest, I felt Jiraiya's skill set put him only slightly behind Pain. You see, knowing Pain's secret gives you some leverage over him, it doesn't mean you are stronger. Basically, part of Pain's "power" is the complexity of the jutsu he wields. You have to change your entire battle strategy to face him if you know his secret, otherwise, you will attack him randomly and end up losing in the long run. This was why Fukasaku felt no one could beat Pain unless his secret was known.

      Indeed, Jiraiya was the strongest shinobi Konoha had, and besides Naruto, this didn't change until the Sasuke reached a similar level. The Five Kage are essentially considered social equals to the Sannin, because Tsunade is one of them and the Five Kage are considered equals. However, it was pointed out that the Dust Release made up most of Ohnoki's power, its a pretty OP move, and the Raikage was exceptionally stronger himself.

      So yes, that is what I am saying, Jiraiya was indeed stronger than most of the shinobi in the world. In fact, you could probably count on one hand the number of shinobi in the world you could take him in a fight. That was why him dying to Pain was a big deal, he wasn't just a Konoha Jonin, he was probably the strongest shinobi Konoha had.

      1. Sadly, we don't know. However, Jiraiya's moveset seems heavy on ninjutsu. So Pain's fighting style puts him automatically at a disadvantage. In fact, Jiraiya even mentioned that Pain's Preta Path essentially sealed most of his jutsu arsenal.

      2. We didn't get to see his jutsu arsenal, so we don't know. We are in the unfortunate situation where we got to see what Itachi was capable of, but not Jiraiya. So, its not a matter of, "well if we haven't seen what Jiraiya can do to counter than he's weaker", that's not what we are about here. Itachi, with full knowledge of his own abilities, stated that the best he could do was tie, he said this, presumably because he knew more about what Jiraiya than we do.

      Honestly, I doubt Itachi is weaker, because Tsukuyomi, Amaterasu, and Susanoo aside; the Totsuka Blade and Yata Mirror are ridiculously OP.

      My guess is that Itachi was factoring in things like his physical health, about how he couldn't fight a large-scale battle with Jiraiya like Jiraiya could. So, in the end, if he got dragged into a fight with Jiraiya, he'd kill trying to win.

      Itachi was the kind of fighter who tried to end a fight in the first few minutes, if he can't, it puts him at a big disadvantage because of his body and low chakra reserves.

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  • Hey! I still can't get it... What made Sasuke change his mind and heart towards killing Naruto (and everybody else) and "creating a world without hate"? What made him "love" or just accept his friends? I thought he was consumed by hate and he wanted to erase the past (by killing everyone in it). Although I understand he doesn't want to destroy Konoha (because of Itachi, bla bla), what made him accept Naruto at the end?

    Sorry if I made you waste your time in answering me! 

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    • Well, its still nice to see the animated ending. That's the reason why I suggested animating the novels, I wanna watch them all especially Kakashi Gaiden. I kinda disappointed with the Shikamaru novel when they cut the fight scene in novel. 

      I don't know how much money they can still get if they postponed Naruto anime seriess for awhile but isn't it the time to finish Bleach? Isn't Pierrot the one doing it?

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    • I think you are talking about Kakashi Hiden, not Kakashi Gaiden. They already animated Kakashi Gaiden years ago.

      To be honest, I liked the concepts in Shikamaru Hiden more than the actual fights. The idea of the Shinobi Union is exciting and I'm disappointed they didn't make it part of the main story.

      Hiden books I wanted to watch were Gaara Hiden and Sakura Hiden, I honestly could care less about Konoha Hiden and Sasuke Shinden, which is what we got.

      Gaara Hiden was a nice look into the politics of Sunagakure, which we didn't see much of, not to mention it had Gaara using Magnet Release, and it was hinted he found a partner for himself at the end of it. Sakura Hiden, while Sakura herself was annoying, had genetic modification and Tailed Beast drugs, that whole concept was awesome, because it was like a new generation of shinobi battle tactics. In fact, I'd almost say it was better than the concept of the Kote.

      Because it gets good ratings, and they get paid pretty much per episode, so the more episodes the more money they get. Everyone assumed they were going to milk it near the end, but no one was expecting it to be as bad as it was, they should have just done the novels and everyone was going to be okay.

      Yes, SP does do Bleach, but you have to realize that a lot of money for the network comes from advertising rights off of associated products shown during the commercials. In other words, during the Bleach show, they'd show Bleach toys and goodies as advertisements. However, the fanbase of Bleach didn't buy the products, because honestly, there weren't a lot of kids interested in Bleach, it was mostly young adults who had followed Bleach from the get-go, and they weren't interested in buying toys and stuff. So, the advertisers suffered, which means they did show advertisements and thus the show itself suffered. Eventually the rating for the series itself dropped so low they just gave another show its slot after the Xcution Arc, and they've never gotten it back.

      As well, between Kubo's health problems and the plot issues with the last arc, even the manga itself was very poor in terms of performance compared to the rest of the series. So, if they do a final season, it will probably be years down the line, like what they did with InuYasha.

      Sadly, had Kubo done a better job on the story, I'm pretty sure the final season may have been green-lit, but that last season, man, it was just not very good. Don't get me wrong, some parts were epic, but the story just wasn't there.

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  • can a perfect jinchuriki be caught in kotoamatsukami or infinite tsukuyomi (i.e naruto, in he's page is stated that he no longer needs to counter genjutsusas he has kurama but i don'r really know if this works even with high calibre genjutsus)

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    • Here's the first thing you need to know. Tailed Beasts can only undo genjutsu once they realize their Jinchuriki is under genjutsu, which is easier said than done.

      Kotoamatsukami is so subtle that even you can't tell you are under genjutsu, so its possible a Tailed Beast wouldn't know either. However, once the Tailed Beast finds out, it can release it for you. Likewise, Tsukuyomi can be released, but it maybe too late once a Tailed Beast realizes, because the jutsu only needs a few seconds for maximum effectiveness.

      As for Infinite Tsukuyomi. You need more than just a partner to release it for you like normal genjutsu. The Infinite Tsukuyomi can only be released with a combination of the Rinnegan and the chakra of the nine Tailed Beasts. In other words, a Tailed Beast can't release it for you.

      So no, Naruto is still vulnerable to the highest classes of genjutsu, but they usually aren't a problem, because all the users of these genjutsu are already dead. The highest caliber of genjutsu we've seen from someone who is still alive is Sasuke, with his Genjutsu: Sharingan produced through his Rinnegan. However, this is only a paralyzing genjutsu, which means it wouldn't work on Naruto as a Perfect Jinchuriki.

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  • was naruto using FTG or just shunshin to stop boruto from throwing shuriken

    (i think it was FTG for one reason, let me explain: FTG uses instant speed which means that your body dissapears from one place to another while shunshin is only high speed movement, back there naruto was inside of hokage office and if he did use shunshin he surely would have been collide from the walls which makes me think that he used FTG to tleport his body from office to mountain (maybe he developed this technique in a higher level which he doesn't need to place a formula to teleport himself, just like genma and other which didn't need formula))

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    • ???

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    • Sorry, I've been busy.

      Naruto was using the Teleportation Jutsu. I understand your arguement, but the story specifically stated he was using the Teleportation Jutsu, so that's what he assume was all he was using. Also, there's a window next to Naruto's office, and then its just a straight shot to on top of the monument. Also, he doesn't necessarily have to be able to perform the move without the formula for your reasoning make sense, he easily could just have a formula on the statue like Minato does.

      Of course, by the same token, the Teleportation Jutsu is used in tandem with the FTG to allow great movement speed. This was how Minato arrived at the battlefield ahead of Tobirama, despite them both moving at the same speed. So Boruto could have been referencing this, just as Tobirama was.

      So, honestly, I could buy its either, but the story specifically says Teleportation, so that's what we go with.

      In addition, I feel if Naruto knew the move, he would have used it during the Gaiden or the Boruto Movie, at least once. Since both are set after the movie, and the FTG is a very useful move, even for someone like Naruto, I feel he would have used it, if he had it.

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  • Hey, Omega, this isn't necessarily a Naruto related question but I figured you could help me out if you weren't too busy.

    Not sure if you're a comic/superhero buff or anything but I know I'm not, that's why I'm struggling with this lol.

    If two parents with super powers (Let's say the father can turn invisible and the mother can fly) have children, do they inherit their parents' powers? (Or one of their powers) Or are they born with completely different powers of their own?

    I don't know if you are familiar with this movie, but in the film, The Incredibles, the entire family has their own individual superpower. And two of them even have access to more than one power.

    If you can, could you explain this to me? I feel like there's something in Naruto or some other series that relates to my question but I'm not sure. Thanks!

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    • Sure. You see, in comics something is usually referenced called the "metagene", which leads to humans becoming "Meta-Humans".

      For the most part, children will inherit the powers of their parents, by this is usually most common when the parent is an alien, not a meta-human. An example would be like the children of Superman or Starfire, who have exactly the same powers as their parents despite being half-human.

      X-Men takes it to a certain level, where mutations go all over the place. Children can have similar powers, or completely different ones. Wolverine for example inherited his mutation from his father, but his father wasn't a mutant. We in part know this because Wolverine's half-brother as also a mutant, and X-Men 2 referenced how mutations are usually passed through fathers, not mothers.

      In other words, if you treat the Incredibles as an example, the children had powers because Robert did, not because of Helen.

      The main key is that the gene present in their bodies brings about "powers". It isn't necessarily like the "speed or strength" is inheritable, more the original ability to develop said strength or speed in the first place.

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    • Ahh okay that makes sense. Do you know where the metagene comes from? or is it some type of genetic thing.

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    • They kind of discuss it on the "Young Justice" show if you ever watched it. The Reach suspected that it was a biological marker that developed from adapting to horrible situations.

      In other words, its an evolution thing, brought upon by intense conditions.

      Some also kind of get their powers from other sources, i.e. Spiderman getting them from a genetically-altered spider, or other things that cause mutations like the solar raditation that gave the Fantastic Four their powers or the particle collider that gave the Flash his powers.

      So, even if the powers are at a genetic-level, they don't have to be naturally occuring. If something manipulates your DNA to make you develop superpowers, then it makes sense that it is then passed on to your children.

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  • How many gates did Sasuke open during his fight with Gara?

    Why didnt the jutsu effect Sasuke like it did Lee? It did effect Sasuke but lee couldn't move afterwards. Sasuke on the other hand defeated Temari and fought against a Jinchuriki Gara.

    Sakura said, "he's almost as faster as Lee with his weights removed". Was Sasuke faster than Lee at that point.

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    • He didn't use any gates.

      Let me explain it to you.

      Lee has two methods of increasing his speed. The first, is to simply remove the weights around his legs. This allows him to be so fast he can hit Gaara through his Sand Shield.

      In Part I, when Lee wants to get faster, he had to use the Eight Gates. If Lee wanted to perform his Lotus technique, he needed to open the First Gate to use it. Afterwords, he is usually to exhausted to fight unless he uses at least the Second Gate. After that, he will release more gates to power up his Hidden Lotus technique.

      Sasuke, when he fought Lee, used his Sharingan to study and copy Lee's taijutsu form. During the month off after the first two phases of the exam, Sasuke envisioned Lee's movements and copied his Strong Fist taijutsu style.

      As a result, Sasuke's natural speed reached a level similar to what Lee's was with his weights removed. However, Lee pointed out that Sasuke's body wasn't yet used to moving at that speed, so he was burning more stamina than Lee does.

      Now, you see, Sasuke wasn't using any of the gates, he was simply copying Lee's natural speed. Sasuke would only really need to use the First Gate if he wanted to perform the Lotus on Gaara, which he didn't do.

      However, Guy pointed out that Sasuke copying Lee's speed is pointless, because even if Sasuke could copy his speed, or even Lee's usage of the gates, it couldn't work against Gaara, who defeated Lee in the first place.

      However, it was shown that the reason Sasuke copied Lee's speed wasn't to simply use it against Gaara, but so his speed could be high enough that he could use Chidori.

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  • Hey Bro! Morning! 

    I just wanna ask for your analysis on chapter 10.

    -Can Boruto posses something to talk to Otsutsuki? Why only Sasuke feel it and not Naruto?

    -How can Momoshiki talk to Boruto while time stops? is it somekind of what Hagoromo did?

    -About those blue eyes?

    -What do you think about the markings in his hands?

    any predictions on what might happen?

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    • Lol. Well, its not morning just yet where I am. You live in the Philippines right? That's a good 13-14 hours ahead of me. XD

      1. Momoshiki said that it is because Boruto has the Byakugan bloodline that he can see him. As for Sasuke, Sasuke has the ability to track Otsutsuki chakra, a power that Naruto doesn't have. So it probably has something to do with that.

      2. Kind of. Have you watched Bleach? I'm pretty sure its a sort of time-lapse sort of thing. Zangetsu did something similar to Ichigo when he was stabbed by Kenpachi. Momoshiki also said he was "unaware of his fate" so this actually might be Momoshiki from a different point in time.

      3. That remains to be seen. It may have nothing to do with power alone. Maybe Boruto will lose someone or something purely because he has blue eyes instead of Byakugan. Kishimoto said that he forgot to give Boruto the Byakugan, but Kodachi might have written it into the story. The fact that both Boruto and Himawari are both born with blue eyes instead of the usually colorless Hyuga eyes may be worked into the story.

      4. Markings like that usually mean either two things, juinjutsu or fuinjutsu. It's possible Momoshiki cast something on Boruto has he died, and its like a curse mark or something. Maybe, that could be why we see Boruto's eye being colorless in the first chapter, the juinjutsu may have gone up his face and blinded one of his eyes. Then again, it was probably just the cause of the scar. But one thing does jump out at me, is that no one considered the possiblity that Boruto may have blinded himself. Maybe the markings went up to his eye and "did something" and Boruto blinded himself.

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    • 1. Is the Byakugan bloodline is like what happen to Hinata and Hamura?

      3. Do you think it might be the legendary theory "Tenseigan"? xD

      4. Oh, so its like the eye might control him?

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    • 1. Well, yes. The Hyuga Bloodline is what ties Boruto and Hinata back to Hamura, and thus, the Otsutsuki Clan that Momoshiki comes from. This could also be why Sasuke was able to see/sense as well, because of the Rinnegan's ties to the Otsutsuki. Of the three there, Naruto was the only one without an "eye" bloodline link to the Otsutsuki, so that was probably the key.

      3. I'm still on the fence about it, mostly because Himawari has already shown the Byakugan, so the real issue here is that they don't have a "resting" Byakugan set of eyes, they are instead blue that transform into Byakugan. Of course, I don't discount it either.

      The Tenseigan is created when Otsutsuki chakra mixes with the Hyuga's bloodline. In other words, if this "marking" that Boruto now has is somehow connected to Otsutsuki chakra, similar to how Orochimaru's juinjutsu gave the user senjutsu chakra, then there might be a chance for Boruto to awaken the Tenseigan. Still, I think Mitsuki still factors into this somehow, the fact Orochimaru basically put him on a collision course with Boruto, I feel is very suspicious.

      4. I don't know honestly. We kind of need more information. What I am suggesting that if Momoshiki feels that Boruto's eyes "will destroy all he loves" that makes it sound like something disasterous will happen to Boruto's eyes.

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    • Ohhh!! Thanks for the insights.

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  • Why do ninja explain their jutsu to their opponents?

    It's said that the sannin graduated from the academy at the age of 6. Was Jiraiya considered a genius? Based on the flashback he didn't seem like one.

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    • Your opinion of Eureka seven's Holland Novak?

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    • Never watched Eureka Seven, so couldn't tell you. Could never get into it.

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  • is naruto able to mix all 5 nature transformations with yin-yang or six paths sage chakra

    if not, can he at least mix them with bijuudama to make his "own" gudodama

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    • get it now: so if the 5 can be mixed isn't the same as getting 2 or 3 mixed together and since he had experienced the filling of how it is to possess TSB, he has the ability to create his own (also hag's body which lets him do things he doesn't understand)

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    • Eh, I hesitate to say he has experienced the feeling of making the balls, the concept is sort of different. The balls manifest upon release, while in most cases Naruto is using chakra through his body, such as from the beasts, and learns from it that way.

      So the balls may be one of the few things Naruto can't "learn by feeling". However, that doesn't stop him from using them as mediums for other jutsu, which is something the other TSB users haven't been seen doing.

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  • What did Sasuke mean in episode 459, when he talk to Naruto about world destruction if both of them die, (and that his body move by itself when defended Naruto). He also told Naruto that is coincidence when Sakura and Kakashi was near him when Infinite Tsukuyomi was cast??

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    • First, he meant that neither Naruto and Sasuke could die because, if one of them did die, then they couldn't cast Six Paths - Chibaku Tensei. Meaning Kaguya couldn't be defeated.

      Likewise, the reason he said it was a coincidence when Sakura and Kakashi were near Naruto was because his sole focus was to save Naruto, he didn't care about Sakura or Kakashi. Sasuke knew if Naruto got caught up in Infinite Tsukuyomi, they'd never be able to seal Madara.

      This is also why Sasuke warned Naruto not to try and protect Kakashi and Sakura during their fight with Kaguya, because if Naruto got hurt or died protecting them they might never be able to seal her, and Kakashi and Sakura's lives weren't worth risking the fate of the world.

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