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Omega64

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  • both prime (hiruzen at his younger days, naruto has passed the "rusty mode" time and has mastered new more deadly techniques, but both at base mode)

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    • That depends on what moves Naruto learned. If he knows Flying Raijin he just might beat Hiruzen.

      Also, Hiruzen is only base mode, he has no transformations. Assuming Hiruzen is stronger than Minato and the Sannin it might be a very hard fight for Naruto is he can't even use Sage Mode, we are putting very large handicaps on Naruto here.

      All we know about Naruto's base mode is that he uses Rasengan and if you throw Sage Mode there's that too. We don't know much about Naruto's own battle prowess after the Last, outside of his Jinchuriki Transformations and Sage Modes.

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    • 1- what if even hiruzen mastered sage mode and would clash with naruto at sage mode (like i mentioned hiruzen in his youth)


      please give opinion for both of them (1st is if them would clash in sage mode, 2nd is when they clash in base mode)


      2- (also even if both are in base mode i've come up with sth in mind) since hiruzen's hoby was to talk with beautiful girls naruto knows that he's a pervert so can make the harem technique (i mean of course he should be able to defeat hiruzen with this technique, it also worked with kaguya who was a god-like figure, when hiruzen is distracted and low his guard naruto can finish him with rasengan or rasenshuriken)

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  • 1- minato prime (just as you said at comparision between sakumo and minato with rasengan chakra nature, toad sage mode etc) vs naruto prime (in his prime base mode and prime sage mode, not including kurama, six paths sage chakra and stuffs like that, but only in prime of those two upstated) in a death battle


    2- also please compare them (in death battle) while in base mode, but in perfect shaping

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    • Was Minato like Sasuke in skill growing up?

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    • Omega64 wrote:
      Like with Hiruzen, it depends on the moves Naruto has learned. For example, if he knows Flying Raijin, he'd probably kill Minato regardless.


      well since he has the mody to master all jutsus he wants, i don't see a reason for him not to be able to learn it (even 16 yrs old he was able to move with the same speed of flying rain lvl 2, so he should be now faster than shishui was at shunshin because he has an almost perfect chakra controll and tons amouny of chakra itself, i think now he as hokage should have tailed beast amount just like hashirama) also he might have learned high level fuinjutsu too since he is the hokage, he knows where to find the jutsu scroll left by 1st and 2nd hokage so i think he might have learned all techniques there

      also he might have awakened wood release in a larger scale that even one of hashirama 

      so any guess ?

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  • who would win in a death battle between minato and sakumo both in their primes (minato alive and without kurama, sakumo no depression and full shape)

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    • Both Minato and Sakumo were implied to be stronger than the Sannin, but it is unknown how strong they were in comparison to each other; especially since we know literally nothing else about Sakumo.

      Assuming Sakumo was in his physical prime when he died, which appeared to be the case as he only has some wrinkles. Simplying he was in his early-to-late 30s, he possibly could have been stronger than Minato pre-death.

      However, something to note, and I'll talk about this with the 3rd as well, is that Minato was in fact, not in his prime when he died. He was only 24, and had yet to master some of the moves he could have prior to his death. Such as the nature transformed Rasengan or Toad Sage Mode.

      Assuming Minato would have been able to actually reach his true prime, which probably would have been around the time of the series, had he lived, I'd imagine he'd probably be more powerful than Sakumo purely becaue he had Sage Mode and the Flying Raijin Jutsu.

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  • in a death battle who would win hiruzen (young when he was at his prime state) or prime minato (without kurama and alive) and why (please analyse each of them)


    off topic question: also when hiruzen was young at his prime state was said to be stronger than a sannin or the three of them together

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    • Like I mentioned with Naruto and Minato, Minato never reached his true prime, he was only 24 when he died. He never had a chance to develop and perfect some technique he may have had around the time in his life where Hiruzen was considered "prime".

      I'm pretty sure the only Hokage who were stronger than Prime Hiruzen are Naruto and Hashirama. Minato may have an edge in speed because of the Flying Raijin, but Hiruzen was probably stronger overall.

      Orochimaru wasn't really said to be stronger than all three of them, he was said to be stronger than any one of them. In other words, if he fought a Sannin one-on-one, he'd beat the Sannin, badly.

      This is kind of shown in the flashback where Hiruzen was in his late 50s, yet Orochimaru stated that Hiruzen still had enough strength to kill him, even when Orochimaru in his own physical prime.

      It was only a decade later when Hiruzen was in his late 60s and Orochimaru had remained in his prime because of his immortality jutsu that Hiruzen lose his chance.

      So, it almost comes down to what is better, raw power or raw speed? I don't really think Hiruzen has any means to counter the Flying Raijin, however, he is a genius, so I wouldn't be surprised.

      On the other hand, Minato's Flying Raijin Jutsu is very hacks. As long as he has it, he doesn't necessarily have to be stronger than his enemy to beat them. Also, had Minato been allowed to reach his prime and possibly master Sage Mode, I feel the odds would even more be in Minato's favor.

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  • can chakra needle kill anyone it hits

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  • what was that orange thing under naruto's and sasuke's legs 

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    • Purple Electricity was made to replace Lightning Cutter after Kakashi lost his Sharingan. Whether its actually stronger than Lightning Cutter or not, is never stated in the novel.

      It does summon rain clouds when shot into the air though, which means it has a pretty wide range of affect.

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  • can naruto alone with 3 clones perform the hokage barrier (one used against ten tails)

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    • You mean the Four Red Yang Formation?

      Yeah, I guess. It really depends on if he only has to do just it or not. You'd assume he'd still have to fight whatever was inside the barrier itself.

      The Hokage were capable of splitting their chakra into pieces and still maintain the barrier. So, I'd assume Naruto, who has more chakra than any of them, could do the same and just have all three clones and himself maintain a barrier.

      The real question is how much chakra do you really need. Like if Naruto has x5 the required amount, he'd be able to do it easily, but if he only has x3, that could be a challenge.

      The point of the barrier is that you usually don't see it because getting together four Kage-level shinobi is rather rare. Your better off including other Kage-level shinobi, like Sasuke, Sakura, and Kakashi; rather than just leave it to one Kage-level shinobi alone. Even if that said Kage-level shinobi has more chakra than all the other Kage-levels combined.

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  • since he can turn off his rinnengan can sasuke activate his mangekyou in his left eye or susano without rinnrngan or mangeyou just like madara

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    • The state of Sasuke's eyes are irrelevant, you can use Susano'o even if you have no eyes at all.

      However, it seems Susano'o might be limited when Sasuke abuses his Rinnegan for his special, unique Space-Time Dojutsu. That seems to exhaust his dojutsu prowess for a time.

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  • since sasuke was able to destroy half a meteor with a chidori (or it was bigger than normal) can naruto destroy half a meteor (same or bigger size) since rasengan is stronger than chidori and sasuke needs chidori kagutauchi to equal it with rasengan (or if it wasn't normal chidori naruto need an odama or bigger rasengan right?

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