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Omega64

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  • Does this scan show that Hagoromo had Sharingan before Rinnegan ?

    http://i.imgur.com/Vu5fRMh.png

    Chapter 659 page 11

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    • Yes, it is unlikely but possible, but that also doesn't mean he does. In this case, we only work with what we have.

      Remember, his Rinnegan wasn't a kekkei genkai, it was a Kekkei Mora, meaning the Sharingan more than likely a Kekkei Genkai off-shoot, most likely like how Shikotsumyaku is probably an off-shoot of Kaguya's All-Killing Ash Bones Kekkei Mora.

      Naruto wouldn't need the Uchiha DNA with Indra's Chakra if he got it directly from Hagoromo, Hagoromo gives the Six Paths Chakra, which what Indra and Asura's chakra mixed together produces. In other words, Naruto would skip a step.

      After all, this is how Sasuke did it, he never got Asura's chakra. However, that is still up for debate, because based on Kabuto's words, Sasuke may or may not have Hashirama's cells inside of him. Either way, doing it that way takes time, as Madara showed. Getting the Rinnegan from Hagoromo is an instant release.

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    • Thanks

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  • Dude, did you see the profiles already? what can you say about it?

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    • Indeed, Mitsuki looks like the strongest for now but I wonder if Konoha knows who is really him.


      But with Sarada and Boruto it seems that Boruto got the edge unlike in his father time where Sasuke has the lead early on.

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    • Yes. I'd imagine his connection to Orochimaru is known. Personally, I would have used the Psychic Mind Transmission to look back into his past, in which point they would realize he is alright to be in the village. The problem is his continued contact with Orochimaru. Seeing as Orochimaru is under surveillance, I'd suspect he's not supposed to be in the village talking to Mitsuki without ANBU approval. However, its also possible Mitsuki is under ANBU surveillance, just like Orochimaru.

      Except Sasuke would also train. That's the thing. Both Sasuke and Naruto trained exceptionally hard, Naruto was just a late bloomer, and, when you get down to it, he probably had more potential than Sasuke did as well. Remember, the two are reflections of Indra and Asura, both are equals, Asura just had to work much harder to achieve that level of strength. However, that doesn't mean the same is true for Boruto and Sarada.

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  • Hello there

    I'm SnidgetGirl, one of the new editors around here and I am currently over from FairyTail Wiki, however I was just pondering is that how do I prevent myself from asking repetitive questions that already exist on this wiki?

    Would I have search for the selected term?

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    • Thanks for clarifying that for me :D.

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    • No problem! Happy to help!

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  • Hey Omega, are you familiar with the Shin Megami Tensei: Persona series? If not, I definitely recommend it if you're into Japanese role-playing games.

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  • what is your opinion

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  • On Boruto's page, why Boruto's right eye is not written as Byakugan?  

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    • I presume its because his face doesn't have veins across the side, so it could easily not be a Byakugan.

      In fact, it might actually just be a regular blind eye. In Naruto, when Itachi used Izanami, his eye also turned white and featureless like Boruto's right eye, so it might not even be a Byakugan, it may just be a blind eye.

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    • Omega64 wrote:
      I presume its because his face doesn't have veins across the side, so it could easily not be a Byakugan.

      In fact, it might actually just be a regular blind eye. In Naruto, when Itachi used Izanami, his eye also turned white and featureless like Boruto's right eye, so it might not even be a Byakugan, it may just be a blind eye.

      Blind? Is the marking might cause this blindness?

      But isn't that far-fetched? I mean, why would you put yourself in such disadvantage if you're facing enemy that might have destroyed the village unless it's Izanagi or Izanami.

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    • I have no way of knowing that, dude. I know no more about those markings than you do. We are literally seeing who knows how many chapters into the future with that scene, there's no way to determine anything.

      Not anymore far-fetched than assuming its a Byakugan. After all, it doesn't have veins and if Boruto did awaken Byakugan, he should logically have two like his sister. There's no reason for him to only awaken one.

      I never believed it was a Byakugan truth be told, people over at Narutopedia just assumed, but they have since corrected themselves. But there are many reasons for his eye, it doesn't have to be a Byakugan. Whatever their final rational was, I don't know, because I don't keep up with the discussions over there.

      There's ton of different ways his eye could have been blinded, and no one ever said it was intentional on Boruto's part, it may have been an injury or the cause of a juinjutsu, similar to how Kakashi lost his eye to a shinobi in battle.

      For all we know, it could neither be a Byakugan or be blind, but a different dojutsu entirely, who knows? All I'm saying is that don't just assume its a Byakugan because its featureless, when other eyes that are not Byakugan have appeared in the story like that.

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    • Ok, I gues I gonna wait

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  • Sorry for my bad english.. I noticed that you have a great knowledge, and I would like to hear your opinion. Which ninjas are strongest than Jiraiya in Naruto anime, and which ninjas are strong the same as he is.

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    • Including Naruto Shippuden.

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    • Well, in terms of characters introduced in the Part I, Jiraiya and Itachi had the highest stats of any character, with a 35.5/40, so that sort of indicates that stat-wise they were the strongest.

      However, Part II expanded the universe greatly, so we know had more shinobi to include. Jiraiya was a part of what was known as the Sannin, the Legendary Three Ninja, meaning the other two members, Orochimaru and Tsunade, were considered to be on par with him.

      When it came to Part I, the Sannin were already stronger than Hiruzen, the Third Hokage, because he had become so much older. However, he was stronger than them when he was younger.

      Aside from Hiruzen, there were two shinobi who could rival the Sannin in Konoha at the time, those were Sakumo Hatake and Itachi Uchiha. Orochimaru considered Itachi stronger than him, while Itachi felt he could possibly defeat Jiraiya at the cost of his own life. In other words, when it came to Jiraiya, Itachi felt that he was stronger than Orochimaru, or at least a bigger threat to him. This most likely has changed since then, because after Jiraiya died, Orochimaru was revived later on, meaning he could have gotten stronger.

      Sakumo is stated to have had strength that surpassed the Sannin, but he died before that really mattered.

      Now, when it comes to the world in Part II, the Five Kage are recognized as the strongest shinobi in the world, and very few rival them in strength, the shinobi that do, are often just referred to as Kage-level by the fanbase, because they are at the level of a Kage.

      Now, at least socially, but also in a literal sense, these Five Kage are seen as equals, and Tsunade being one of them, means that each Kage is seen as being on par with a Sannin.

      Now we move "beyond" the Kage. These are shinobi who skills surpass the Sannin and are seen as some of the most powerful shinobi in history.

      Firstly, Pain, who killed Jiraiya, proved to not only be stronger than a Sannin, but also stronger than Hanzo. Hanzo was the Kage-level shinobi who took on the Sannin in their youth and gave them their title. Even Jiraiya thought the feat was impossible for a single person to defeat Hanzo in 1-on-1 combat, but Pain did.

      Pain was also the recognized strongest member of Akatsuki, stronger than both Obito, at the time, and Itachi. This power mostly came from his use of the Rinnegan.

      Now, Tsunade stated that if Jiraiya couldn't beat Pain, then no one in the village could, showing that Jiraiya was one of the strongest, if not the strongest, shinobi Konoha had at the time. Tsunade and Kakashi were probably the only ones who could rival him.

      So, Naruto underwent Sage Mode and rose to Kage-level, and surpassed Jiraiya in strength and skill. He went on to beat Pain, proving himself to be the strongest Konoha shinobi.

      Now, when the Fourth Great Shinobi War broke, all hell broke loose. So many Kage-level shinobi were running around, it was hard to keep track of who was the strongest. However, fortunately Kabuto explained to us that among all Kage-level shinobi that have surfaced since the founding of the shinobi villages, Hashirama was the strongest.

      So, Hashirama Senju was recognized as the strongest Kage and Kage-level shinobi to ever surface. Meaning that at that point in time in the world, he was the recognized strongest shinobi. However, at the same time, it was implied for some time that the Sage of the Six Paths, if he actually existed, was even stronger.

      Now, when Madara arrived, it was explained that only Hashirama could beat him, because even though Madara was not the strongest Kage-level shinobi, he and Hashirama were still in a league of their own.

      This was proven when he fought all Five Kage at the same time in a 5-on-1 duel, and beat them.

      So basically, Madara and Hashirama were stated to be stronger than anyone introduced at that point, only surpassed by Hagoromo Otsutsuki, the Sage of the Six Paths, with Hashirama being the stronger of the two.

      Later on, its expanded on that Madara stole Hashirama's power and obtained both his Wood Release and activated the Rinnegan. Meaning that he was pushing past Hashirama in terms of power.

      This is shown later on when Madara is revived and he overpowers the still reanimated Hashirama. When before Madara's reanimated self fought Hashirama equally, and, in the past, Hashirama used to hold an advantage over Madara.

      So, at this point Obito becomes the Ten-Tails' Jinchuriki, and both Hashirama, Tobirama, and Hiruzen express how Obito was now stronger than Hashirama. And according to Obito, he was on par with the Sage of Six Paths, but this wasn't true.

      This meant that Obito and Madara were contesting for the title of the strongest, but even Madara recognized that he needed more power to fight Obito.

      Eventually Obito is overpowered by Naruto and the Alliance, and loses his powers and strength. Afterwards, Madara revives himself, re-gains a Rinnegan eye, and becomes the Ten-Tails' Jinchuriki himself.

      Now, when Madara regained his other eye, he could be considered to be in Hagoromo's realm of power, the only thing that technically makes Hagoromo stronger was that he wieled the entire Ten-Tails' power, while Madara's Ten-Tails was incomplete.

      Now, when Naruto and Sasuke reach Hagoromo's plan of existence, they discuss history with Hagoromo. Hagoromo explains that as a normal Rinnegan user, before his transform into a Jinchuriki, his mother, Kaguya Otsutsuki was stronger than both him and his brother Hamura Otsutsuki. Kaguya fused with the Shinju, the source of all chakra, and became the Ten-Tails, meaning the Ten-Tails, as an individual is the strongest being.

      Hagoromo, Obito, and Madara had become stronger than this being by sealing it inside of themselves and using its power for their own. With Hagoromo having the most power out of the three.

      Now, Madara later awoke the Rinne Sharingan, something Hagoromo never had but Kaguya did. So, at this point, you could consider Madara stronger than anyone or anything and this point. However, Black Zetsu helps Kaguya surface and take this power for herself.

      So, when Kaguya who was in control of Madara's body during the war, she IS the strongest being in the series. Bar none. She had her power, the Shinju's, the chakra of Infinite Tsukuyomi, and Madara's power. Naruto and Sasuke are powerful enough to compete with her, but she is still the strongest.

      The only thing is she doesn't have very good control of her power, so she's like a child with a machine gun.

      Naruto actually held his own against her for awhile, which is very impressive. At any rate. Once Kaguya was sealed and Madara died. The Ten-Tails ceassed to exist, leaving only Sasuke and Naruto.

      Now, at this point Naruto and Sasuke have surpassed most everyone. Hashirama and Madara, Asura and Indra. They've all been surpassed at this point.

      Now, Naruto proved himself to be the stronger of the two during their battle, as he outlasted Sasuke even with all the advantages Sasuke brought with him.

      Later on, Naruto beat Toneri Otsutsuki, a Tenseigan user with prowess on par with Madara, in not even his full power, which greatly showed Naruto's own strength.

      Eventually, by the end of the series. Naruto is the Hokage, meaning he is recognized as the strongest of the Konoha shinobi, and he is also the most powerful shinobi to even hold the rank of Kage.

      Now, as the world sits right now, Naruto and Sasuke are at the top, they aren't the strongest in history, but they are pretty close. They probably can't get closer without doing some for of experimentation on themselves, but that is unnecessary at this point.

      It is unknown how much stronger or weaker the two have gotten since the war, but its safe to say they are the strongest shinobi in the world at the moment.

      As to who is below them and in what order, I can't really say, because like I said, we don't know all the Kage-level shinobi and how they match up on a case-to-case basis. Some may beat others that ones stronger than them can't beat. All that is really known is that Naruto and Sasuke are stronger than any of them. The Five Kage are still recognized as the strongest shinobi, or at least in the Top 6 with Sasuke, with Naruto being the strongest amongst them.

      Among the Konoha shinobi, there are five confirmed Kage-level shinobi, Naruto (the Seventh Hokage), Sasuke, Sakura, who was said to have surpassed Tsunade, and Tsunade and Kakashi, who are former Hokage. As to how they fit amongst themselves, that is hard to say, because we don't know where Kakashi is, if he is stronger than Tsunade or not, or stronger than Sakura or not. All that is known is that Naruto is the recognized strongest, with Sasuke as the close second.

      If you want to know where a specific shinobi fits, you will have to be more specific.

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  • Can jubbi exist along with the other tailed beast? And what's the juubi's real name?

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    • No, by definition the Ten-Tails is a fusion of all the Tailed Beasts and the Demonic Statue of the Outer Path. However, the Ten-Tails can be revived in an incomplete form with fractions of the other Tailed Beasts and the statue, such as the Ten-Tails was revived, but Gyuki and Kurama were still seperate from it.

      The Ten-Tails is simply known as the Ten-Tails, or the Juubi in Japanese, it doesn't have a name like the other Tailed Beasts. Originally the Ten-Tails was two entities, the Shinju and Kaguya Otsutsuki. So, the Ten-Tails is also both these entities and at the same time, it's own entity, as neither entity has sole control of it, and it has its own beastly-like consciousness. Kaguya can surface from the Ten-Tails, provided she has enough chakra and a medium to control.

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    • Blimey

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  • I have a doubt, when a character that is in sage mode use a jutsu that doesn't have sage art on its name like when kabuto used great waterfall ,was that a regular water jutsu or was an enhanced senjutsu jutsu??don't all senjutsu jutsus have sage art on its name?

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    • @Omega64 the naruto wikia from my country mention that when you become the ten-tails Jinchuriki you gain the sage transformation ability and mentions databook 4 as a reference , is that true??'cause that is not in the english wiki.

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    • No, that is not true. I think there is a mistranslation going on there between either the databook and your language, or our wikia and your wikia.

      Ten-Tails' Jinchuriki don't get Sage Transformation, they get Six Paths Senjutsu, which is completely different. They do also get Six Paths Power and Six Paths Chakra, but they do not get Sage Transformation.

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  • In order to perform the Inazami or Inazagi technique, does the user need to have access to the Mangekyo Sharingan, or would a standard one work fine? I know when Danzo used it, he was able to use the ones implanted on his arm, but he already had access to the Mangekyo, so I do not know if he is the best example.

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    • Well, Obito knows about Izanagi way more than Danzō. If he thought that Izanagi could be used even without being able to perform hand seals, then he was probably right. We'll never get an answer anyway.

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    • Well, like we discussed, how would academic knowledge of the technique lead to mastery? You need to perfect a move in order to limit your hand seals. Hence the questions is raised again, how would Obito achieve that mastery?

      No matter how you spin it, the most practical and logical answer is what I provided. Obito logically couldn't have reached a point to perform Izanagi without hand signs, because it is impractical for him to have achieved such mastery. Thus, a situation where he uses a Transcription Seal and Izanagi, which is perfectly possible, becomes the most logical theory.

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